Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

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Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение dj4ol » 30 мар 2014, 22:49

I need some help, because I want to see the DVB SUBTITLE.

For example: txt sub pid is 6605.

Where do I have to write this number?
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Re: Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение Anfortas » 05 апр 2014, 18:47

You are absolutely right. It would be highly desirable to get subtitles for the English channels at 27.5W, too. Obviously, these subtitles do not work with current firmware of Dr.HD D15 (firmware problem). And I hope that firmware-developers can provide a solution for this.


Basically, you can add or change PIDs by transferring the channel list (-> (C)NDF-file) to a USB-stick and using a program like "NDFEdit 1.69" (channel list editor). But this procedure will not be successful as far as the English channels at 27.5W are concerned. Dr.HD D15 will not display subtitles, even if a (C)NDF-file (= channels list) contains correct subtitle PIDs for the English channels at 27.5W (e. g. for BBC One HD: 0x19CD = decimal 6605).


If you check the PIDs displayed on the receiver-menu ("menu > Edit channels > selection of a specific channel by OK-button": V(ideo)PID; A(audio)PID and P(CR)PID) and the PIDs displayed by NDFEdit 1.69 (Video PID, Audio PID, PCR PID, teletext PID etc.), you will notice some very strange things:
1.
The Video-PID (for a specific channel) displayed on the receiver-menu and the Video-PID displayed by NDFEdit 1.69 is not identical (as it should be).
Example: Video PID for "BBC One HD"
receiver-menu on Dr.HD D15: (0x19C9 =) decimal 6601
NDFEdit: 0x59C9 (= decimal 22985)
(According to "kingofsat" the value 0x19C9 = decimal 6601 should be the correct Video PID for "BBD One HD".)
2.
The P(CR) PID shown on the receiver-menu ("menu > Edit channels") is identical to the PCR PID displayed by NDFEdit 1.69 (e.g. PCR PID for "BBC One HD": 0x59C9 = decimal 22985), but this value never seems to be the correct PCR PID (according to kingofsat: e.g. the correct PCR PID for "BBC One HD" is decimal 6601 = 0x19C9).
3.
Using NDFEdit 1.69 you can see that no teletext PID is registered for any of the English channels at 27.5W (field "teletext PID" is always empty). Unfortunately, adding the correct "teletext PID" for a channel (e. g. for BBC One HD: 0x19CD = decimal 6605) does not provide display of subtitles.


It seems to me that the current Dr.HD-D15-firmware processes the PIDs of the English channels at 27.5W in a very special way. Under normal circumstances a Video/PCR-PID value like "0x59C9 = decimal 22985" is invalid (much too big) and never used. And if you manually enter all the correct PIDs (Video-/Audio-/PCR-/teletext-PIDs) for any of the English channels at 27.5W, you will not neither picture nor subtitles.

To cut a long story short: In my opinion, the subtitle problem of the English channels at 27.5W can be solved only by developers of Dr.HD D15 firmware. Hopefully, they take notice of this problem and can come up with a solution ...

Regards

Anfortas
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Re: Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение marval450 » 25 апр 2014, 09:14

Are you sure there are subtitles?
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Re: Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение dj4ol » 25 апр 2014, 11:06

Yes, we are!
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Re: Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение marval450 » 25 апр 2014, 16:04

so,do you know subt. PIDs? I was trying to write some pids to Alt dvb,but nothing works... :?
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Re: Dr.HD D15: BBC-Satback: DVB Subtitle

Сообщение dj4ol » 26 апр 2014, 11:30

Everything is scrambled!

Exemple for BBC ONE HD @ satback, DVB subtitles are on PID 6605 (0x19CD):

Received on PID: 6600 (0x19C8)
SectionSyntaxIndicator: True
TableIDExtension: 17540 (0x4484)
VersionNumber: 0 (0x00)
CurrentNextIndicator: Current
SectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
LastSectionNumber: 0 (0x00)
Streams
Stream 0
StreamType 27 (0x1B) (AVC video stream conforming to one or more profiles defined in Annex A of Rec. ITU-T H.264 | ISO/IEC 14496-10)
ElementaryPID 6601 (0x19C9)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 0B R..
ComponentTag: (0x0B)
DescriptorTag: 112 (0x70) "adaptation_field_data_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 70 01 04 p..
Stream 1
StreamType 17 (0x11) (ISO/IEC 14496-3 Audio with the LATM transport syntax as defined in ISO/IEC 14496-3 / AMD 1)
ElementaryPID 6602 (0x19CA)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 0C R..
ComponentTag: (0x0C)
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 10 (0x0A) "ISO_639_language_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 0A 04 65 6E 67 00 ..eng.
Items
Item 0
ISO639LanguageCode: eng (English)
AudioType: (0x00) Audio Undefined
Descriptor 2
DescriptorTag: 124 (0x7C) "AAC_Descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 2
DescriptorData:
00: 7C 02 5A 00 |.Z.
ProfileAndLevel: 90 (0x5A)
AACTypeFlag: False
Descriptor 3
DescriptorTag: 127 (0x7F) "Extended descriptor coding"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 2
DescriptorData:
00: 7F 02 06 82 ...‚
DescriptionTagExtension: 6 (0x06)
SelectorBytes
00: 82 ‚
Descriptor 4
DescriptorTag: 107 (0x6B) "ancillary_data_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 6B 01 20 k.
AncillaryDataIdentifier: 20 "
Stream 2
StreamType 17 (0x11) (ISO/IEC 14496-3 Audio with the LATM transport syntax as defined in ISO/IEC 14496-3 / AMD 1)
ElementaryPID 6606 (0x19CE)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 0D R..
ComponentTag: (0x0D)
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 10 (0x0A) "ISO_639_language_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 4
DescriptorData:
00: 0A 04 65 6E 67 03 ..eng.
Items
Item 0
ISO639LanguageCode: eng (English)
AudioType: (0x03) Visual impaired commentary
Descriptor 2
DescriptorTag: 124 (0x7C) "AAC_Descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 3
DescriptorData:
00: 7C 03 58 80 47 |.X€G
ProfileAndLevel: 88 (0x58)
AACTypeFlag: True
AACType: 71 (0x47)
Descriptor 3
DescriptorTag: 127 (0x7F) "Extended descriptor coding"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 2
DescriptorData:
00: 7F 02 06 06 ....
DescriptionTagExtension: 6 (0x06)
SelectorBytes
00: 06 .
Stream 3
StreamType 6 (0x06) (ITU-T Rec. H.222.0 | ISO/IEC 13818-1 PES packets containing private data)
ElementaryPID 6605 (0x19CD)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 05 R..
ComponentTag: (0x05)
Descriptor 1
DescriptorTag: 89 (0x59) "subtitling_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 8
DescriptorData:
00: 59 08 65 6E 67 14 00 01 00 01 Y.eng.....
Items
Item 0
ISO639LanguageCode: eng (English)
SubtitlingType: 20 (0x14) DVB subtitles (normal) for display on a high definition monitor
CompositionPageID: 1 (0x0001)
AncillaryPageID: 1 (0x0001)
Stream 4
StreamType 5 (0x05) (ITU-T Rec. H.222.0 | ISO/IEC 13818-1 private_sections)
ElementaryPID 6650 (0x19FA)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 96 R.–
ComponentTag: (0x96)
DescriptorTag: 116 (0x74) "related_content_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 0
DescriptorData:
00: 74 00 t.
Stream 5
StreamType 11 (0x0B) (ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B) (Used as MHP-Data)
ElementaryPID 6610 (0x19D2)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 6E R.n
ComponentTag: (0x6E)
DescriptorTag: 19 (0x13) "DSM CC data carousel"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 5
DescriptorData:
00: 13 05 00 00 00 01 00 .......
Descriptor 2
DescriptorTag: 102 (0x66) "data_broadcast_id_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 12
DescriptorData:
00: 66 0C 01 06 01 01 00 06 01 04 00 01 6F 6E f...........on
DataBroadcastID: 262 (0x0106) "Reserved for general registration through the DVB Project"
IDSelectorByte: 10
IDSelector
00: 01 01 00 06 01 04 00 01 6F 6E ........on
Stream 6
StreamType 11 (0x0B) (ISO/IEC 13818-6 type B)
ElementaryPID 6111 (0x17DF)
Descriptors
Descriptor 0
DescriptorTag: 82 (0x52) "stream_identifier_descriptor"
DescriptorSpace: DVB-SI
DefaultISOLanguageCode: ""
DescriptorLength: 1
DescriptorData:
00: 52 01 65 R.e
ComponentTag: (0x65)
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